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Salicylic Acid versus Betaine Salicylate


This post has been incredibly tough to write. I didn't want to descend into BHA madness like Snow White and the Asian Pear. She deep-dives into studies and research better than I can. I just wanted to know why salicylic acid is capped at such low percentages and how can betaine salicylate get around that? What makes them different, what makes them work? Apparently, to answer those questions (and only in the most superficial way at that) I need to read academic papers, patent filings, and medical chemistry guides. (;一_一)

Cosrx BHA Blackhead Power Liquid has been a huge part of my routine since mid November of 2017. Since I am very acne-prone I use it daily, and sometimes twice daily. I had a period of time in January 2018 where my acne was flaring up and I couldn't seem to get it under control so I switched to using The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% Solution and Oxy Deep Pore Medicated Acne Pads with 2% salicylic acid. Things got worse: my acne persisted and my skin became even more irritated. I switched back to Cosrx BHA Blackhead Power Liquid and my skin gradually began to recover from irritation. However, I am not saying that it was the two salicylic acid containing products that caused the acne or the irritation.

I have been making all kinds of skincare mistakes despite supposedly knowing better. I ended up somewhat over-exfoliated recently due to a combination of things, as well as finding out the hard way that one of my trigger ingredients is lanolin. Long story short: Eucerin Aquaphor causes my skin to break out in painful little pustules that aren't fixed by applying acne solutions. It took me a while to realize that my acids were only worsening the problem by weakening the already irritated skin barrier that I would then apply more Aquaphor to fix. Once I ditched the Aquaphor the pustules healed and I was no longer stuck in the cycle of trying to treat a reaction as acne.

I have played around with The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% Solution and the Oxy Deep Pore Medicated Acne Pads since ditching Eucerin Aquaphor, and they have not caused anywhere near the level of irritation I previously experienced. However, I still don't like using them as much. Why? Well, the Oxy Pads are rough, stinky and very drying, and The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% Solution can be drying as well. These problems are not entirely the fault of the 2% salicylic acid that they contain. It's likely that my skin prefers Cosrx BHA Blackhead Power Liquid not because of the 4% betaine salicylate it contains, but because of the overall formulation. Let's look at the ingredients for all three products.

Betaine Salicylate versus Salicylic Acid
BHAs all day
Cosrx BHA Blackhead Power Liquid (list taken from Ulta): Salix Alba (Willow) Bark Water, Butylene Glycol, Betaine Salicylate, Niacinamide, 1,2-Hexanediol, Arginine, Panthenol, Sodium Hyaluronate, Xanthan Gum, Ethyl Hexanediol.

The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% and Cosrx BHA Blackhead Power Liquid
*sings* One of these things is not like the other..
The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% Solution (from their website): Aqua (Water), Hamamelis Virginiana Leaf Water, Cocamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Salicylic Acid, Dimethyl Isosorbide, Trisodium Ethylenediamine Disuccinate, Citric Acid, Polysorbate 20, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Ethoxydiglycol, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, 1,2-hexanediol, Caprylyl Glycol.

Oxy Deep Pore Medicated Acne Pads
See? Look at how rough that pad is!
Oxy Deep Pore Medicated Acne Pads (transcribed from container): Salicylic Acid 2%, Non-Medicinal Ingredients: Fragrance, Isoceteth-20, PEG-8/SMDI Copolymer, Purified Water, SD Alcohol 40D, Triethanlomine, Trisodium EDTA.


Looking at all three lists of ingredients doesn't really clarify things. For one thing, I don't think the ingredients on the container of Oxy Pads is in order of most to least, rather it looks like alphabetical ordering. Why else would Fragrance be listed before Purified Water? Nonetheless, alcohol is apparent in the smell and feel of the liquid which is probably why these pads are very drying. I also really dislike the rough texture of the pad. It's very scratchy feeling ◉_◉

The difference between the ingredient lists for Cosrx BHA Blackhead Power Liquid and The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% Solution doesn't tell me much about why my skin prefers one over the other. To really find out, I will probably have to quit using the Cosrx for around 3 months and use The Ordinary instead. I'm not super keen to do that right at the moment since I like how the Blackhead Power Liquid feels under my other layers of skincare. Instead, we'll look at what are the differences between salicylic acid and betaine salicylate, and why they are used in concentrations of less than 2% and 4% respectively.

Let's begin with salicylic acid since it's what I am more familiar with; having used it on and off since I was eleven years old. Salicylic acid is a beta hydroxy acid, or BHA, originally derived from willow bark. Currently, it can be derived from a number of other sources including wintergreen, peanuts, licorice root, calendula (marigold), plantain, and wheat. The proper chemical name is 2-Hydroxybenzoic acid and Health Canada has it listed on its Cosmetic Ingredient Hotlist in the List of Ingredients that are Restricted for Use in Cosmetic Products. Surprisingly there isn't a tonne of other information to be found on Health Canada's site specifically pertaining to salicylic acid. All I've got is: "For topical use only. Permitted at concentrations equal to or less than 2%." Okie dokie then.

In Canada and the U.S. its concentration is capped at 2% for leave-on topical preparations (with the exception of certain foot condition treatments) but in Korea it is limited to 0.5%. At that low of a concentration it is unlikely to be effective for people suffering from severe acne. I believe this is why Cosrx has chosen to use betaine salicylate since the maximum allowable concentration is much higher. I have yet to find what the official maximum allowable concentration is, but I have not seen any product using higher than 4% betaine salicylate. One source states that 4% betaine salicylate acts the same as 2% salicylic acid, but I haven't seen any hard data to support that statement. Betaine salicylate has virtually no information listed about it on Health Canada. It is not mentioned whatsoever in Canada's Cosmetic Ingredient Hotlist. Nor, is it listed in the Cosmetics Ingredient Review, the Cosmetics Info, the Cosmetics and Toiletries, nor the Prospector databases. To me this indicates that either it is sufficiently uncommon and therefore merits no mention, OR it is completely safe with no side effects at all. My guess is the former.

Salicylic acid and betaine salicylate
Well that didn't clarify much. Image source 1 and source 2

Betaine salicylate is an ester of salicylic acid, meaning that a salicylic acid molecule has undergone a process called esterification in order to attach a betaine molecule. I last took chemistry in high school so I honestly can't completely understand the process. What I've read is essentially that the salicylic acid is placed in a waterless alcoholic solution and has a betaine molecule attached to it. Chemistry is magic, guys.

So what about the the betaine part of betaine salicylate? What is it and why is it there? Betaine is an amino acid derivative originally discovered in sugar beets. There are many types of betaine, but in skincare the type you find is actually trimethylglycine or TMG. You probably have seen it in many of your own skincare products because it acts as a skin conditioner and moisturizer, and is generally considered as a soothing superstar. If you check the ingredients in your hair care products you'll almost definitely find betaine because of the characteristic silky feeling that it imparts. This article from 2010 quickly summarizes some of the studies about betaine's safety, uses, and benefits. Most notable in my opinion is that "betaine has a good anti-inflammatory action on superficial inflammatory lesions". Less red and swollen acne spots gets a win in my book!

Alright, so they put the salicylic acid and betaine together to form betaine salicylate. Now what? From Patent US3002886A: "Betaine salicylate is slightly soluble in water (0.74 gram percent at 25 C.), and the pH of the saturated aqueous solution is pH 2.7. The compound is soluble in methanol, ethanol and isopropanol and insoluble in anhydrous ether and petroleum benzine. Betaine salicylate is not hygroscopic and is stable to heat and light."

When I first read that I had trouble understanding what 0.74 gram percent actually meant in practical terms. Particularly since 'gram percent' is non-standard notation these days. After some reading and using this great guide, I determined that the author means w/w% which is definitely something I have seen on my products without ever knowing what it meant. In fact, if you scroll up to the image of the container of Oxy pads and look closely at the right-most image you will see it too! Right there, on the line for medicinal ingredients it says "Salicylic Acid 2.0% w/w". Huh, why did I always ignore the w/w? Welp, the more you know I guess.

Okay, but if you can only dissolve 0.74g of betaine salicylate into 100g of water (or mL since they are equivalent for pure water in standard atmospheric condition) to reach a saturated solution, how can my skincare product have a 4% (ie. 4g betaine salicylate to 100g water) concentration? I am going to skip answering that question because I can't do it without going even further off-topic. Let's just say it has to do with the other solvents like butylene glycol, dimethyl isosorbide, and alcohol present in the formulations of the products we're talking about. I can't go down every rabbit hole, despite my natural inclination to so I'm noping right out of this one.

Cosrx BHA Blackhead power liquid versus The Ordinary Salicylic Acid 2% Solution
I pretty much only use these guys now since the OXY pads are ouch!

In conclusion, I don't think I answered my questions at all. I feel like I know less now that I did when I first began. There are so many factors in the formulation of a skincare product, and even more when that skincare product contains active ingredients. I hope that you learned something from reading this overly long post and if I have made mistakes, pleasepleaseplease correct me by commenting below!

To learn more about the power of acids in skincare, please check out Lab Muffin and her fantastic guides. There are lots and lots of blog posts about beta hydroxy acids and more over at Point of Interest, Vanity Rex, Graceful Face, Simple Skincare Science, The Wanderlust Project, Beauty Brains, Elizabeth Renee, and Escaping Mars.

Further Reading (but if you don't want to, that's okay)

Skincare Guide to Beta Hydroxy Acids

International Journal of Cosmetic Sciences

Comparison study of glycolic acid versus salicylic acid for sun damage

Salicylic acid as a skin whitening ingredient

Salicylic acid in wash-off products

Plant based sources of salicylic acid and other acne treatments

Delivery methods for salicylic acid in skincare

Sodium salicylate for anti-aging


Sources relating to the creation and purchase of betaine salicylate and salicylic acid

Patent for creating tablets of betaine salicylate

Cosmetics and Toiletries profile of salicylic acid

Prospector profile of salicylic acid

Prospector data relating to purchase of salicylic acid

Prospector data relating to purchase of betaine salicylate

in-cosmetics Korea data relating to purchase of betaine salicylate
May 25, 2018 3 comments
3 bottles of The Ordinary's Lactic Acid 10% + HA
I'm trippin' on (lactic) acid!

I think that right now is a pretty good time for me to review this product because I am currently making headway into my third bottle. I have been using The Ordinary's 10% Lactic Acid Serum consistently since late October, 2017. There are some other products the Ordinary makes that I have been using as well so reviews should be forthcoming.  [UPDATE May 13, 2018: I finished the third bottle of lactic acid, but did not open more. This is partly due to suffering overexfoliation at the hand of another product from The Ordinary, but mainly because I started using tretinoin. Tretinoin is the fully active version of retinol and it does not joke around. In order to use it safely I temporarily dropped all other acids out of my routine, and have been reintroducing them gradually. Lactic acid and other AHAs are not a priority for me at this time because we are heading into summer. AHAs cause increased photo-sensitivity and so does tretinion. I have opted to instead use BHAs and vitamin C as my other actives at this time.]

In the last several months have been trying an absolute tonne of new skincare products and I know that it is very hard to gauge results when there is so much going onto my face. Here's the thing though; of everything I have been using this product is the one I never want to skip. In fact, I thought it would be a good idea (why, why?) to leave this behind while travelling to visit family over the Christmas holidays, and boy did I ever regret it. Within 3 days of no longer using my lovely lactic acid I could see changes and not for the better.

My skin loves chemical exfoliation and does not love, or even like, physical exfoliation. Daily, often twice daily, application of The Ordinary's Lactic Acid 10% + HA keeps my skin baby soft, purges closed comedones from my face in the form of grits during oil cleansing, reduces the amount and duration of breakouts, and oddly enough keeps my skin from being too thirsty. I don't want to get into it here but lactic acid is a hydrophilic molecule - meaning that it pulls water towards itself - and so it shouldn't actually surprise me that an acid doesn't dry out my skin. Still, I grew up in the age of Clearasil 'moisturizers' leaving skin tight and flaking so I guess my expectations were low. For a quick and fun look into how skincare acids can work for you visit this excellent blog.

Lactic Acid is pretty nice and non-irritating to me, however I do not have sensitive skin overall. My experience is that this particular acid feels soothing during application as well as during the wait time I give it to work in. The only time I experience any tingling or stinging is if I have dry flaky patches from insufficiently moisturizing creams (Benton, I'm looking at you) during cold winter weather. It does sting on open acne sores, but I consider that a bonus? I mean, it doesn't really hurt much or for very long and it is only on the exact spot that a whitehead has decided to burst. The way I see it; that jerk had it coming.

The Ordinary Lactic Acid 10% + HA viewed in dropper
A slightly pink liquid as viewed through the dropper

I do have some quibbles with The Ordinary over product consistency. The first bottle I ordered had a serum-like texture with a lot of slip and easy spreadability. The second bottle (and the third) were ordered about a month after the first and have a completely different texture. This time the lactic acid is less like a serum and more like a toner. If you have ever used Hada Labo Gokujyun Light Lotion, then you'll know what I mean when I say it is like water but with a slippery feel. It still spreads smoothly across my skin but I am using it up way faster than I was before. The serum-texture lactic acid was better in my opinion because I felt that I could place it on my skin more precisely. With the new, watery texture I am using an entire dropper-full each time in order to get the amount I need on my face, neck and upper chest. Maybe other people will enjoy the liquid texture more since it allows you to spread it more thinly. Me, I need that sweet, sweet acid all up in here.

I checked it out on their website and this is what they have to say about the change in texture:

Our formulations are updated from time to time as part of our commitment to innovation. As such, the ingredient list shown here may vary from the box of the product depending on time and region of purchase. Lactic Acid has a natural odour that some people find unpleasant. This formula was updated in October 2017 to use a grade of lactic acid that has no odour per customer feedback. Additionally, this update removed the use of carrageenan, a seaweed-based viscosity-enhancer, also due to feedback from customers. These changes improve the sensory aspects of the formula but do not impact efficacy.

So there you have it, they made it thinner in texture purposely and not due to batch inconsistencies which frankly, I was worried about. I mean, the stuff is so damn cheap! And their CEO is so damn strange..

The Ordinary Lactic Acid 10% + HA on my hand
A very runny texture sometimes makes it harder to apply

Something I haven't yet mentioned is that the "HA" in the name of the product refers to hyaluronic acid. Hyaluronic acid is not a chemical exfoliant despite having 'acid' in its name. Instead, it is a substance found naturally in your skin that holds onto water molecules and maintains skin hydration. I use other skincare products containing hyaluronic acid so I do not look to my chemical exfoliant to provide any hydration even though its nice to see it in there.

Lactic Acid is an Alpha Hydroxy Acid (AHA from now on) that was originally derived from milk. These days there are synthetic ways of producing it and I believe (but am not sure) that this is how The Ordinary sources the lactic acid they use in this formulation as well as the other acids on their menu. Their description of Lactic Acid 10% + HA:

Lactic Acid is an alpha hydroxyl acid that exfoliates the skin. This 10% formulation offers mild exfoliation and is supported with a purified Tasmanian pepperberry known to reduce signs of inflammation and sensitivity that is often associated with exfoliation. A milder 5% formula is available here. This formula contains a studied Tasmanian Pepperberry derivative to help reduce irritation associated with acid use. This derivative is of plant origin and varies in colour seasonally and this colour variation may be apparent in the formula from time to time. Contraindications: Lactic Acid should not be used on sensitive, peeling or compromised skin. Please refer to additional sun protection note and other warnings in provided Directions. This pH of this formula is approximately 3.8. Lactic Acid has a pKa of 3.8 and pKa is the most important aspect to consider in formulating with acids. pKa implies acid availability. When pKa is close to pH, there is an ideal balance between salt and acidity, maximizing effectiveness of the acid and reducing irritation. Higher pH numbers in such a case would increase salt which counter-intuitively would make the formula even more irritating than if the formula was more acidic. Note: While Lactic Acid can result in quick visible benefits, we generally suggest indirect forms of skin exfoliation in favour of direct forms such as this formula due to potential inflammation and sensitivity associated with acids. Please refer to NIOD's Non-Acid Acid Precursor for such a reference.

I mean, yeah, you should definitely wear sunscreen and I do appreciate the explanation about the pH and the importance of pKa. That information tells me that The Ordinary sees the intelligence and passion skincare lovers have about the things they choose to put on their faces. BUT. That plug for NIOD's Long-Name-Not-An-Acid is just that. A product plug. In my opinion, The Ordinary exists as a marketing tool to get us looking into Deciem's other (more expensive) brands. I know that I personally would never have looked at their other lines if not for my curiosity about The Ordinary. That said, I am really happy that I can get effective skincare for cheap. Rant over - now let's get back to our regularly scheduled programming!

Ingredients:

Aqua (Water), Lactic Acid, Glycerin, Pentylene Glycol, Propanediol, Sodium Hydroxide, Sodium Hyaluronate Crosspolymer, Tasmannia Lanceolata Fruit/Leaf Extract, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Isoceteth-20, Trisodium Ethylenediamine Disuccinate, Ethylhexylglycerin, 1,2-Hexanediol, Caprylyl Glycol.

Overall, I am really satisfied with the effectiveness of The Ordinary's Lactic Acid 10% + HA. The price for 30mL is 6.70 CAD and it lasts about a month if you slather in on twice daily as I generally do. There are definitely better lactic acid serums out there but not at this price point. Maybe one day when I am rolling in cash (heh, not likely) I will try some of them out. For the foreseeable future I will be purchasing from The Ordinary.

My Rating:

4/5 - I like it. I would strongly consider purchasing it again or even gifting it to a loved one

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I am not affiliated in any way with any brands and these products were purchased by me with my own money. I am reviewing them because I feel strongly that more reviews of more products leads to better information for everyone.
February 03, 2018 2 comments
The Ordinary Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% and Lactic Acid 10% + HA 2%


When I read the reviews that other people write about products I am never too concerned with the final number rating given. Instead, I tend to really love the way the author describes the feeling of the product during application and the results of long term use. That said, the final rating and summary are definitely helpful.

That is why I plan to use a rating system that is in line (perhaps to the point of plagiarism) with many others I have seen. Let's get into this!

1/5 - I effing hate this product and will be throwing it in the garbage right quick

2/5 - I don't like it personally but I can see how this product would appeal to others, I guess

3/5 - I will not be repurchasing this product despite the fact that it appears to be good value

4/5 - I like it. I would strongly consider purchasing it again or even gifting it to a loved one

5/5 - I like this product a lot! I will be repurchasing it for the foreseeable future

Pretty self explanatory, no?

Well, except for the fact that I didn't declare a rating of 5/5 to be HG, otherwise known as a Holy Grail product. I'm uncomfortable using that designation because I have never experienced the elation that seems to accompany the declaration of "HG!!" Frankly, I have serious doubts that I will find a product that I never want to live without and will repurchase ad infinitum.

Various products on a pink background
A very early routine snapshot

Instead, I think this system will lend itself to less reevaluations over time. A great example are the products shown in the picture above. At the time I was using those particular items I probably would have rated all of them about a four on five. Now I can conclusively say that I have not repurchased any of the above except for the Andalou Naturals 1000 Roses Toner and The Ordinary Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%. Of the two repurchases, when they run out I will be replacing them with other products.

For instance, The Ordinary Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% is a nice little introduction to niacinamide as an ingredient and it is extraordinarily cheap at 5.90CAD per 30mL. I have used it in lots of different ways over the last several months; from serum to booster to spot treatment. In all of these applications it does just fine. That's it though. It's fine. Just fine. I have noticed that it helps to heal open comedones a little faster than without it and it has helped with fading my leftover tan from the summer. But I'm ready for more, I want to move on to Shark Sauce from Holy Snails.

My rating of The Ordinary Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% is : 3.5/5

3/5 - I will not be repurchasing this product despite the fact that it appears to be good value

4/5 - I like it. I would strongly consider purchasing it again or even gifting it to a loved one

The final verdict is that while I did buy 3 bottles of the stuff, after using 2 of those bottles I am only still using it due to trying to maintain a consistent routine. The Ordinary Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% is formulated with blemish treatment in mind but it doesn't really do that for me. I use BHA containing products for my acne since they seem to act more quickly on that front. With niacinamide my goal is reduce sun damage and fade hyperpigmentation. Therefore, I am going to move on hopefully to bigger and better things.
January 27, 2018 No comments
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